Introduction

This page summarizes a conversation between Dan, Tadas, and Vlad of the Optimystics team regarding the IC-Fractal App PRD, created by Hodlon and bitbeckers. We discussed the IC-Fractal app for about twenty minutes and mid-April and recorded the call, then I created a summary of our conversation below with an AI tool. The AI tool might not perfectly reflect our feedback and I can also consider sharing a video clip if that would be more helpful than the summary. You can also see Dan’s retrospective with some notes about this conversation from June on this page.

Table of Contents

• Introduction
• Summary: IC-Fractal App Development and Collaboration Discussion
• Discussion on Fractal App Design and Development
• Discussion on Internet Computer and Shutter Integration
• Discussion on Retroactive Public Goods Funding and Development Focus
• Next Steps and Collaboration
• Discussion on Building on Different Platforms
• Follow-up Actions and Conclusion
• Questions to Ask Hodlon and Bitbeckers Regarding the IC-Fractal App PRD

Summary: IC-Fractal App Development and Collaboration Discussion

This discussion between Dan, Tadas, and Vlad of the Optimystics team covers various aspects of fractal app development, collaboration efforts, and the integration of different blockchain technologies. The conversation centers around a Product Requirements Document (PRD) for an IC-Fractal App created by Hodlon and Bitbeckers, while also exploring broader topics such as development strategies, funding opportunities, and coordination challenges within the blockchain ecosystem. The Optimystics team discusses the potential of this new app design in relation to their own development efforts and

Discussion on Fractal App Design and Development

The team discusses the PRD for a comprehensive fractal app that combines various tools and features, comparing it to their own development efforts. They analyze the app's design, which focuses on experienced communities and incorporates elements such as the respect game, proposals section, and sub rounds. The design appears to be more comprehensive than their current focus on ease of play.

Key Points

• Comprehensive app design focusing on experienced communities
• Includes respect game, proposals section, and sub rounds
• Similar to Matas' pral app on Antelope
• Emphasis on all-in-one functionality
• Comparison with Optimystics' focus on ease of play

To-Do's

1. Review the PRD in detail, comparing it to current Optimystics development plans
2. Identify potential areas of collaboration or differentiation

Discussion on Internet Computer and Shutter Integration

The conversation shifts to the integration of Internet Computer (IC) and Shutter, discussing their potential benefits and use cases. The team explores how these technologies could enhance privacy and cross-chain functionality in the fractal app.

Key Points

• Integration of Shutter for private voting
• IC fractal using Internet Computer protocol
• Possibility of posting on multiple chains
• Creation of accounts compatible with Optimism and other EVM chains
• Potential for enhanced privacy and cross-chain interoperability

To-Do's

1. Research further into Internet Computer and Shutter technologies
2. Evaluate the feasibility and benefits of integrating these technologies into their own development

Discussion on Retroactive Public Goods Funding and Development Focus

The team discusses the eligibility of the app for retroactive public goods funding and debates the best development focus. They consider the trade-offs between building on Optimism for immediate funding opportunities versus exploring multi-chain solutions.

Key Points

• App eligible for retroactive public goods funding
• Potential focus on building directly on Optimism for more funding opportunities
• Internet Computer used as backend, with results submitted to Optimism
• Possibility of interacting with multiple blockchains
• Consideration of development priorities and resource allocation

To-Do's

1. Investigate retroactive public goods funding criteria and application process
2. Analyze the potential returns of focusing on Optimism versus multi-chain development

Next Steps and Collaboration

The team discusses potential next steps for collaboration and gathering more information about the IC-Fractal App. They consider various approaches to engage with Hodlon and Bitbeckers and provide valuable feedback.

To-Do's

1. Consider setting up a call or chat with Hodlon and Bitbeckers
2. Leave comments on the document for feedback
3. Ask specific questions about ICP integration and its benefits
4. Prepare a list of detailed questions and concerns to discuss with Hodlon and Bitbeckers

Discussion on Building on Different Platforms

The team explores the pros and cons of building on various platforms, including EVM, Psinq, and ICP. They discuss the market potential of EVM and the challenges of coordinating development across multiple platforms.

Key Points

• Consideration of building on multiple platforms (EVM, Psinq, ICP)
• Focus on EVM market due to its size and potential
• Challenges in coordinating multiple initiatives and platforms
• Evaluation of the benefits and drawbacks of platform diversification

To-Do's

1. Conduct a comprehensive analysis of the pros and cons of each platform
2. Develop a strategy for potential multi-platform development or focused approach

Follow-up Actions and Conclusion

The team discusses how to proceed with providing feedback on the IC-Fractal App PRD and potential collaboration opportunities. They consider sharing their own development efforts and exploring ways to either collaborate or support parallel development efforts.

To-Do's

1. Leave comments and feedback on the Discord or hackmd document
2. Share the op fractal Notion page with the create optimism fractal app project
3. Ask Hodlon and Bitbeckers about their plans and next steps
4. Consider potential collaboration opportunities or supporting their development efforts
5. Develop a clear strategy for engagement and potential collaboration

Questions to Ask Hodlon and Bitbeckers Regarding the IC-Fractal App PRD

1. What are your specific plans for building this app? Are you committed to developing it, and what is your proposed timeline?
2. How exactly would the Internet Computer integration benefit the app and its users? Can you provide specific use cases?
3. Can you elaborate on the importance of the privacy feature using Shutter? Is it a core functionality or a nice-to-have?
4. How do you envision the app interacting with different blockchain networks, particularly Optimism and other EVM chains?
5. What is your strategy for balancing development efforts between EVM compatibility and other platforms like Psibase or ICP?
6. How does your app design address the challenges of coordinating multiple blockchain initiatives and communities?
7. Can you provide more details on the backend implementation using Internet Computer and how it would interact with the Optimism network?
8. How do you plan to implement the sub rounds feature, and how does it fit into the overall fractal structure of the app?
9. Are there any specific areas where you're seeking input or collaboration from the broader community, including our team?
10. How do you plan to approach retroactive public goods funding, and have you considered the trade-offs between focused and multi-chain development?
11. Can you explain your vision for the governance and proposal features in more detail?
12. How do you plan to ensure ease of use for both experienced and new users of the app?
13. What are your thoughts on the scalability of your proposed solution, particularly in terms of handling increased user activity and cross-chain interactions?
14. Have you considered any potential regulatory challenges with implementing privacy features or cross-chain functionality?
15. How does your app design complement or differentiate from existing solutions in the market, including our own development efforts?